Ouch:
Mark Steyn: [...] I don’t want to get into the Andrew Sullivan, you know, “You must read this book,” says Andrew Sullivan of Andrew Sullivan’s fantastic new book. I don’t want to get into that kind of self endorsement, but I do think there is a lesson in this book for the Republican leadership on how to connect foreign policy and national security with domestic issues and if they’re looking around for ideas, as we certainly should be on this grim morning after, then I hope they do take a look at that.
John Hawkins: Well, as someone who read your book, I can wholeheartedly endorse it. It’s one of the best books I’ve read in a long time, must-read material.
Mark Steyn: Ok, that’s great, but then I hope you don’t have that to say about Andrew Sullivan….
John Hawkins: No… I don’t even read Andrew Sullivan’s stuff. I’m not into liberals pretending to be conservatives.
Mark Steyn: He’s got a little good act going there. He’s going to be put up on TV as the voice of conservatism for the next 30 years because the media is only interested in dissident conservatives. So he will be the official voice of conservatism for decades.
John Hawkins: Yeah, that is ironic.
The whole interview is great.